From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Oct 01 07:22:46 2020 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.90_1) id 1kNwfe-0006dN-2V for mharc-gforth@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Oct 2020 07:22:46 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43962) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kNwfc-0006cD-G4 for gforth@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Oct 2020 07:22:44 -0400 Received: from wout2-smtp.messagingengine.com ([64.147.123.25]:54251) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kNwfZ-0007hV-Do for gforth@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Oct 2020 07:22:44 -0400 Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id A12CAFAC for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2020 07:22:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imap35 ([10.202.2.85]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 01 Oct 2020 07:22:38 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.fm; h= mime-version:message-id:date:from:to:subject:content-type; s= fm1; bh=lsQdb0I+8A5eL4FDw9ro1XHFHtMEMW98vw5CfDsMIBI=; b=irsiRXPl dJcHwDuNPIA0AXgwyfHVEKdcggkZpQtf5AU3pvbQqNhA9MRdKYLHC2O6Zb2fuQrG VoAEYYzxhj0ZU24GzuRWMY4tEa6Vo6YWGBA6UG9+JQHK4a2v0dISeye95EHg9oNn MsvtjsKIMzaAWrsGnMXQHFjOVA02LLExqMOr8AEaXd9QDufFgUlmMeDnBjQJPAOv H6fszfjE+z3kkYFsYq4sWv1JrEMkWlks+rx8YocAs0d/5Qx/x56/60/BZrH09mrE NaDcM8KLz2wz2G/qxgDzkd/VCVdA1jWkysbkfV3bD3kebF3QaZb8PBx/hLZGuo9A jHVY4Mlgwu6ckg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=lsQdb0I+8A5eL4FDw9ro1XHFHtMEM W98vw5CfDsMIBI=; b=n4YjB1IPRNNtpykkYIuERIip9r4dNfY2Q+W0dbIc+UfFz NDklA0XNbNldCwkwbr0n5rMNDb0Frm3B2lCiNKdhdzRs2kgX6imrGYLRI8/ghLpn 6sMlhaPOOx83n4H6IzS3cmvnStvsHBgj7/1ZleNzVs//Q0VdvjD7d7YHl8BcX4QG y3sXK2KUHhE6dnkU20Q3PDICO3AKql7sNd5W2VqjjuagzCZ9jyz+fMRstgUxRNlx +asS97X8jWjSYQzohy1926vbvPcQmRGiKyKRxOJmS5J0x+I3H4J9RF5fcMQ+x71Q VcTXNdFrr0dRC0J1at3jQVNsQRbwtI9bj2/ianlHQ== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedujedrfeeggdegtdcutefuodetggdotefrodftvf curfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecu uegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhepofgfggfkfffhvffutgesthdtredtre ertdenucfhrhhomhepfdfgthhhrghnucfirghruggvnhgvrhdfuceovggvkhgvvgehjees fhgrshhtmhgrihhlrdhfmheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepudfggfdvvdetlefgteetfe dugfeutdekkefgfeetjeegieekffegtedugedtkeeinecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgep tdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepvggvkhgvvgehjeesfhgrshhtmhgrihhlrd hfmh X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id DAA1A14C0993; Thu, 1 Oct 2020 07:22:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.3.0-382-ge235179-fm-20200928.002-ge2351794 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <69aef632-cf40-48da-9a28-37f008bd368a@www.fastmail.com> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2020 12:22:16 +0100 From: "Ethan Gardener" To: Gforth Subject: gforthmi instructions confused regarding relocatability Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=64.147.123.25; envelope-from=eekee57@fastmail.fm; helo=wout2-smtp.messagingengine.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/01 07:22:39 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -24 X-Spam_score: -2.5 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.5 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: gforth@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Gforth discussion and announcements List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2020 11:22:44 -0000 In the gforth documentation, at the bottom of section 13.5.1, are some confused statements. To quote: > A special doubly indirect threaded version of the gforth executable is used for creating the non-relocatable images; you can pass the exact filename of this executable through the environment variable GFORTHD (default: gforth-ditc); if you pass a version that is not doubly indirect threaded, you will not get a fully relocatable image, but a data-relocatable image (because there is no code address offset). The normal gforth executable is used for creating the relocatable image; you can pass the exact filename of this executable through the environment variable GFORTH. I think "not get a fully relocatable image," should be "not get a non-relocatable image,". From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Oct 01 07:52:26 2020 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.90_1) id 1kNx8M-0002Sx-AK for mharc-gforth@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Oct 2020 07:52:26 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51160) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kNx8K-0002Qz-G5 for gforth@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Oct 2020 07:52:24 -0400 Received: from wout1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([64.147.123.24]:40089) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kNx8F-00032t-3L for gforth@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Oct 2020 07:52:24 -0400 Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 817D51032 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2020 07:52:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imap35 ([10.202.2.85]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 01 Oct 2020 07:52:17 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.fm; h= mime-version:message-id:in-reply-to:references:date:from:to :subject:content-type; s=fm1; bh=FguIB5I3RdqDAWJ2mnzvOps5vG89cUx q6AKT4pyUTlU=; b=j+aXiOfMIBs+LOkvTUF9u/Ji06W+5Cb/hZaKERafgGwPMkD DFHBTvxeOFsT5or4557JXaLsHgW/iqbMVJ6/2VNIG7T7fomp2mc00owXektJeQ2H h22ycL1MIAapZRLPVROtrmGgyqmEVbI9UxAnE4T3HEekPzSMmc1BRDQsJThAhTn5 F/9p5YizmZ4zR/G+wnz3iyBtyNqLv4yvmasbnFIeL9KhC0uuJHV/NNN2EZ3oKGGT joFvLTRjY7MJpziPhwaKLDkHOFFSod4u4kljXzloREs/yCFJenFyZAWLX3TSqrIk hB3fw6pz/qbnL9SHs7SlKl+xVgmLjVG8WMjiRxQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=FguIB5 I3RdqDAWJ2mnzvOps5vG89cUxq6AKT4pyUTlU=; b=C8iYeQmq3I9T2cJdBmjLne I6xpqA/04+cN7cTclZd2yGfR7H6165RFgkWOp8I2p2uwH6TM7kjj/1rW0MRmkorw bmCdshYi81UCZRyD/zrRXjzdIKslk/cd12Wehh6s24ICcCzIjpV1gRKgF2g2Omvz g7DvJsiBeuE+5TksobQsKVkKKzCxA8C67AO7495XbmzWs5242oQ52YuzLTVVqBKJ uIWCRE2K/isn62aH7n3AdozTS7a4msWBrEA33bJmD12UMWHwoJ2n+lX7zr5gXHaM RnPZhhllZL9O37x/NnOmIgSJzERavilwAhEU3aHPQuw/HFdoUA+J4UhUnjPDSc+Q == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedujedrfeeggdegiecutefuodetggdotefrodftvf curfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecu uegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhepofgfggfkjghffffhvffutgesthdtre dtreerjeenucfhrhhomhepfdfgthhhrghnucfirghruggvnhgvrhdfuceovggvkhgvvgeh jeesfhgrshhtmhgrihhlrdhfmheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepfeelfeehjeffheduhe ekgfffveelueeuheegudevudelteekgfdvieefuddtvdelnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihii vgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepvggvkhgvvgehjeesfhgrshhtmhgrih hlrdhfmh X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id 616DE14C0993; Thu, 1 Oct 2020 07:52:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.3.0-382-ge235179-fm-20200928.002-ge2351794 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <1cfa704d-af6d-42f7-9a62-ca084d7df57e@www.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: <570eb3ea-d68f-4fb9-8cd9-2d010f574003@www.fastmail.com> References: <31a4542b-e8c7-4f0b-8513-139a222d7331@www.fastmail.com> <4254a75a-1725-4c66-ab9d-e7310d6737ef@www.fastmail.com> <27138596.8P1WmueTfd@liubei> <570eb3ea-d68f-4fb9-8cd9-2d010f574003@www.fastmail.com> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2020 12:51:55 +0100 From: "Ethan Gardener" To: Gforth Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_Minos2_terminal_bug:_rapidly_repeated_clear-and-redraw_cau?= =?UTF-8?Q?ses_missed_drawing?= Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=64.147.123.24; envelope-from=eekee57@fastmail.fm; helo=wout1-smtp.messagingengine.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/01 07:52:17 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -24 X-Spam_score: -2.5 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.5 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: gforth@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Gforth discussion and announcements List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2020 11:52:24 -0000 Minimal reproduction of the bug as seen in qx output: : hi 15 fg! 12 bg! ; : 0color 0 fg! 15 bg! ; cr ." abc" hi ." def" 0color ." ghi" Optionally insert another 0color after the cr. 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This is not relevant. The bug also occurs with enough screen space. From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Oct 01 08:54:23 2020 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.90_1) id 1kNy6J-0004R7-RK for mharc-gforth@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Oct 2020 08:54:23 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40300) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kNy6H-0004P1-Lb for gforth@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Oct 2020 08:54:21 -0400 Received: from zhugeliang.net2o.de ([45.9.62.17]:36854 helo=mail.net2o.de) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kNy6F-0003wX-7p for gforth@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Oct 2020 08:54:21 -0400 Received: from liubei.localnet (200116b8266e3300caa5e33f014c9a20.dip.versatel-1u1.de [IPv6:2001:16b8:266e:3300:caa5:e33f:14c:9a20]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mail.net2o.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4A01E8016D; Thu, 1 Oct 2020 14:54:15 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=net2o.de; s=mail; t=1601556855; bh=bBFiP/J3Mg2YPaJy/TN3ftVbqXoyGMuBei6yxxhPCSQ=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=moNMD+40E6fGxCbjc7pMnnnB+j5iOzB44ObWkZbsDQVWEwyJzDWKRk8IRqLbTl9X+ OoJGU0qKBrdXo9kqppq4gB2tG0MMTn4Yvrij5bFep07eDXpdPkmWYbyq8spRjPUKIN +phxhqyOO62Aj3DtGb+7MQXjY4R4gROZ/GRMfmnQ= From: Bernd Paysan To: Gforth Cc: Ethan Gardener Subject: Re: Minos2 terminal bug: rapidly repeated clear-and-redraw causes missed drawing Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2020 14:54:07 +0200 Message-ID: <2817541.813gdRZIfZ@liubei> In-Reply-To: <1cfa704d-af6d-42f7-9a62-ca084d7df57e@www.fastmail.com> References: <31a4542b-e8c7-4f0b-8513-139a222d7331@www.fastmail.com> <570eb3ea-d68f-4fb9-8cd9-2d010f574003@www.fastmail.com> <1cfa704d-af6d-42f7-9a62-ca084d7df57e@www.fastmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1688335.bvgU4khbkU"; micalg="pgp-sha256"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=45.9.62.17; envelope-from=bernd@net2o.de; helo=mail.net2o.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/01 08:54:15 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: gforth@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Gforth discussion and announcements List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2020 12:54:22 -0000 --nextPart1688335.bvgU4khbkU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; protected-headers="v1" From: Bernd Paysan To: Gforth Cc: Ethan Gardener Subject: Re: Minos2 terminal bug: rapidly repeated clear-and-redraw causes missed drawing Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2020 14:54:07 +0200 Message-ID: <2817541.813gdRZIfZ@liubei> In-Reply-To: <1cfa704d-af6d-42f7-9a62-ca084d7df57e@www.fastmail.com> References: <31a4542b-e8c7-4f0b-8513-139a222d7331@www.fastmail.com> <570eb3ea-d68f-4fb9-8cd9-2d010f574003@www.fastmail.com> <1cfa704d-af6d-42f7-9a62-ca084d7df57e@www.fastmail.com> Am Donnerstag, 1. Oktober 2020, 13:51:55 CEST schrieb Ethan Gardener: > Minimal reproduction of the bug as seen in qx output: > : hi 15 fg! 12 bg! ; > : 0color 0 fg! 15 bg! ; > > cr ." abc" hi ." def" 0color ." ghi" > > Optionally insert another 0color after the cr. 0 is the "change nothing" pseudo-color, 6 is the default pseudo-color and 7-15 are actual colors of choice. -- Bernd Paysan "If you want it done right, you have to do it yourself" net2o id: kQusJzA;7*?t=uy@X}1GWr!+0qqp_Cn176t4(dQ* https://net2o.de/ --nextPart1688335.bvgU4khbkU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. 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Thu, 1 Oct 2020 09:40:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.3.0-382-ge235179-fm-20200928.002-ge2351794 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <2817541.813gdRZIfZ@liubei> References: <31a4542b-e8c7-4f0b-8513-139a222d7331@www.fastmail.com> <570eb3ea-d68f-4fb9-8cd9-2d010f574003@www.fastmail.com> <1cfa704d-af6d-42f7-9a62-ca084d7df57e@www.fastmail.com> <2817541.813gdRZIfZ@liubei> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2020 14:39:55 +0100 From: "Ethan Gardener" To: "Bernd Paysan" , Gforth Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_Minos2_terminal_bug:_rapidly_repeated_clear-and-redraw_cau?= =?UTF-8?Q?ses_missed_drawing?= Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=64.147.123.24; envelope-from=eekee57@fastmail.fm; helo=wout1-smtp.messagingengine.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/01 07:52:17 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -24 X-Spam_score: -2.5 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.5 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: gforth@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Gforth discussion and announcements List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2020 13:40:27 -0000 On Thu, Oct 1, 2020, at 1:54 PM, Bernd Paysan wrote: > > 0 is the "change nothing" pseudo-color, 6 is the default pseudo-color and 7-15 > are actual colors of choice. Thanks! I've changed the editor's rvsoff to use 6. It works correctly now: no black listing; no truncated QX. Fixed! : rvsoff 6 fg! 6 bg! ; From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Oct 01 10:17:29 2020 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.90_1) id 1kNzOi-0002R8-IV for mharc-gforth@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Oct 2020 10:17:29 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34400) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kNzOh-0002R1-6P for gforth@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Oct 2020 10:17:27 -0400 Received: from zhugeliang.net2o.de ([45.9.62.17]:46552 helo=mail.net2o.de) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kNzOe-00077Y-PW for gforth@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Oct 2020 10:17:26 -0400 Received: from liubei.localnet (200116b8266e3300caa5e33f014c9a20.dip.versatel-1u1.de [IPv6:2001:16b8:266e:3300:caa5:e33f:14c:9a20]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mail.net2o.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 42C0880042; Thu, 1 Oct 2020 16:17:22 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=net2o.de; s=mail; t=1601561842; bh=g/6a0J6AtPFNH8jxTWh+rn/ul1SewbK/mKT/ZqyXDQk=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=Z/SX/jSxAqZMSjLkTgfhAsGrhC+eS9uMKSWrmPf4hj4xy5meyMrobJB88UuM0ujiu 0ujsBQ3Na27DHmN2lImpn0cU6XhZLxsqnSXBcS+dsyPsj+Hc9WWosszhs63lIhW7kI 0fvI56kc3PMgvFLNO85UMnFvciiWXe09yMivdaJo= From: Bernd Paysan To: Gforth , Ethan Gardener Subject: Re: Minos2 terminal bug: rapidly repeated clear-and-redraw causes missed drawing Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2020 16:17:17 +0200 Message-ID: <5789604.WYuNYd3Xae@liubei> In-Reply-To: References: <31a4542b-e8c7-4f0b-8513-139a222d7331@www.fastmail.com> <2817541.813gdRZIfZ@liubei> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3309982.r8yNqK7lNM"; micalg="pgp-sha256"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=45.9.62.17; envelope-from=bernd@net2o.de; helo=mail.net2o.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/01 08:54:15 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: gforth@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Gforth discussion and announcements List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2020 14:17:27 -0000 --nextPart3309982.r8yNqK7lNM Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; protected-headers="v1" From: Bernd Paysan To: Gforth , Ethan Gardener Subject: Re: Minos2 terminal bug: rapidly repeated clear-and-redraw causes missed drawing Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2020 16:17:17 +0200 Message-ID: <5789604.WYuNYd3Xae@liubei> In-Reply-To: References: <31a4542b-e8c7-4f0b-8513-139a222d7331@www.fastmail.com> <2817541.813gdRZIfZ@liubei> Am Donnerstag, 1. Oktober 2020, 15:39:55 CEST schrieb Ethan Gardener: > On Thu, Oct 1, 2020, at 1:54 PM, Bernd Paysan wrote: > > 0 is the "change nothing" pseudo-color, 6 is the default pseudo-color and > > 7-15 are actual colors of choice. > > Thanks! I've changed the editor's rvsoff to use 6. It works correctly now: > no black listing; no truncated QX. Fixed! > : rvsoff 6 fg! 6 bg! ; I recommend: : rvson invers attr! ; : rvsoff 0 attr! ; This works portable across all terminal implementations that support invers. -- Bernd Paysan "If you want it done right, you have to do it yourself" net2o id: kQusJzA;7*?t=uy@X}1GWr!+0qqp_Cn176t4(dQ* https://net2o.de/ --nextPart3309982.r8yNqK7lNM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. 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To quote: > > > A special doubly indirect threaded version of the gforth executable is used for creating the non-relocatable images; you can pass the exact filename of this executable through the environment variable GFORTHD (default: gforth-ditc); if you pass a version that is not doubly indirect threaded, you will not get a fully relocatable image, but a data-relocatable image (because there is no code address offset). The normal gforth executable is used for creating the relocatable image; you can pass the exact filename of this executable through the environment variable GFORTH. > > I think "not get a fully relocatable image," should be "not get a non-relocatable image,". Both is true (the resulting image is data-relocatable, not fully relocatabale nor non-relocatable). I doubt that anybody has been using data-relocatable images for a long time, if ever: they are engine-specific and do not work with dynamic native code (the default), and offer no advantage over fully relocatable images. 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Thanks. I'll have to start using `attr!` and implement it on my systems which don't have it. I've implemented fg! and bg! for ansi terminal already, except I didn't implement the same color numbers as minos2 because I'm not practiced with inverse logic. (Bits set to 1 for off, 0 for on.) I don't know if i'll use invers because I like colors. ;) Besides, on my more developed system I replaced rvson and rvsoff with hion and 0color, intending to use hion outside the editor as a sort of personal standard for higlights. I hadn't got around to doing that on the tablet. (Should have made a network block protocol. ;)