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Toggling > the keyboard or typing usually makes the text appear. > > Also, when moving the cursor, the cursor frequently stays where it is > until another key is pressed. > > Rarely, when typing, 1 or 2 typed characters will not appear until > another is typed. > > Devices & OSs: > Samsung SM-P615, Android 13 > Samsung SM-A405FN/DS, Android 11 I just noticed that it may not exit when ctrl-d is pressed, waiting for another key. (Both devices) From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Mar 07 17:33:20 2025 Received: from list by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.90_1) id 1tqgFs-00037O-BP for mharc-gforth@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2025 17:33:20 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tqgFp-000374-TS for gforth@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2025 17:33:18 -0500 Received: from net2o.de ([2a03:4000:45:28a::11e7:20] helo=mail.net2o.de) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tqgFd-0000vi-VI for gforth@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2025 17:33:17 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=net2o.de; s=mail; t=1741386775; bh=1w3yhEDHXzjntTmU36H45z4Wn+wGx8ozE+YOu8pOrtg=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=VYWrish0zWFaRrs6Vut5A2ImPS7hbuv2JHKdJGHkJ5+e8xvjg2Jm1cwYkn92kXLaH 8cN/vgCYg7BQDv8rq7oEY0uyEkyntaDwHzUvspkVJV2q/+JcZaIk6TQ56+L1eD5uJv n2c4QONZV75jrV0991btW1X5uc5aU3zJEMrsTq9U= Received: from wukong.localnet (p200300f6c74502003a247d6f25a3b721.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [IPv6:2003:f6:c745:200:3a24:7d6f:25a3:b721]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange x25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mail.net2o.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 84B6780230; Fri, 07 Mar 2025 23:32:55 +0100 (CET) From: Bernd Paysan To: Gforth Cc: Ethan Azariah Subject: Re: Opens to black screen; cursor/entry update sometimes delayed (Android) Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2025 23:32:51 +0100 Message-ID: <2751261.9o76ZdvQCi@wukong> In-Reply-To: <6bc06b95-83b6-4236-8f85-84081487f503@app.fastmail.com> References: <61426bef-250e-4031-b79c-5b360e8f5b0a@app.fastmail.com> <6bc06b95-83b6-4236-8f85-84081487f503@app.fastmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3317494.vuYhMxLoTh"; micalg="pgp-sha256"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a03:4000:45:28a::11e7:20; envelope-from=bernd@net2o.de; helo=mail.net2o.de X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_INVALID=0.1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, T_SPF_HELO_TEMPERROR=0.01, T_SPF_TEMPERROR=0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: gforth@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Gforth discussion and announcements List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2025 22:33:19 -0000 --nextPart3317494.vuYhMxLoTh Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; protected-headers="v1" From: Bernd Paysan To: Gforth Cc: Ethan Azariah Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2025 23:32:51 +0100 Message-ID: <2751261.9o76ZdvQCi@wukong> In-Reply-To: <6bc06b95-83b6-4236-8f85-84081487f503@app.fastmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Am Freitag, 7. M=C3=A4rz 2025, 08:46:52 Mitteleurop=C3=A4ische Normalzeit s= chrieb Ethan=20 Azariah: > On Wed, Feb 19, 2025, at 4:08 PM, Ethan Azariah wrote: > > Using Gforth on Android in the last few days, when starting Gforth I > > see a black screen with only the on-screen keyboard displayed. Toggling > > the keyboard or typing usually makes the text appear. > >=20 > > Also, when moving the cursor, the cursor frequently stays where it is > > until another key is pressed. > >=20 > > Rarely, when typing, 1 or 2 typed characters will not appear until > > another is typed. > >=20 > > Devices & OSs: > > Samsung SM-P615, Android 13 > > Samsung SM-A405FN/DS, Android 11 >=20 > I just noticed that it may not exit when ctrl-d is pressed, waiting for > another key. (Both devices) Confirmed. 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Fri, 07 Mar 2025 18:38:28 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <61426bef-250e-4031-b79c-5b360e8f5b0a@app.fastmail.com> <6bc06b95-83b6-4236-8f85-84081487f503@app.fastmail.com> <2751261.9o76ZdvQCi@wukong> In-Reply-To: <2751261.9o76ZdvQCi@wukong> From: etienne delacroix Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2025 03:38:17 +0100 X-Gm-Features: AQ5f1JpRY95WMRbCAnkuzZ4je3wSwhcN2AgWAnoqVH-4kOghJvzAPfKDMftU8h8 Message-ID: Subject: etienne delacroixRe: I ride on Ethan's questions to seek help on entering gforth android To: Bernd Paysan Cc: Gforth , Ethan Azariah Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2b; envelope-from=eti2la@gmail.com; helo=mail-yb1-xb2b.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: gforth@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Gforth discussion and announcements List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2025 02:38:32 -0000 if, by the way, someone in the gofrth_android interested tribe, could help me overcome the silly problems of just loading the wonderful wrote= : > Am Freitag, 7. M=C3=A4rz 2025, 08:46:52 Mitteleurop=C3=A4ische Normalzeit= schrieb > Ethan > Azariah: > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2025, at 4:08 PM, Ethan Azariah wrote: > > > Using Gforth on Android in the last few days, when starting Gforth I > > > see a black screen with only the on-screen keyboard displayed. Toggli= ng > > > the keyboard or typing usually makes the text appear. > > > > > > Also, when moving the cursor, the cursor frequently stays where it is > > > until another key is pressed. > > > > > > Rarely, when typing, 1 or 2 typed characters will not appear until > > > another is typed. > > > > > > Devices & OSs: > > > Samsung SM-P615, Android 13 > > > Samsung SM-A405FN/DS, Android 11 > > > > I just noticed that it may not exit when ctrl-d is pressed, waiting for > > another key. (Both devices) > > Confirmed. I'm currently seeing even more problems on Android 15, and > figuring > out what's wrong. > > -- > Bernd Paysan > "If you want it done right, you have to do it yourself" > net2o id: kQusJzA;7*?t=3Duy@X}1GWr!+0qqp_Cn176t4(dQ* > https://net2o.de/ >