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Seidite-(Ce)

A valid IMA mineral species
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About Seidite-(Ce)Hide

Formula:
Na4(Ce,Sr)2[TiSi8O18(OH)2](O,OH,F)4 · 5H2O
Colour:
Bright yellow, pinkish yellow, creamy-white
Lustre:
Silky
Hardness:
3 - 4
Specific Gravity:
2.76
Crystal System:
Monoclinic
Name:
Named after Seidozero, literally Lake Seid, the central lake in the Lovozero complex.
This page provides mineralogical data about Seidite-(Ce).


Unique IdentifiersHide

Mindat ID:
7284
Long-form identifier:
mindat:1:1:7284:3

Similar NamesHide

ReiditeA valid IMA mineral speciesZr(SiO4)
SiudaiteA valid IMA mineral speciesNa8(Mn22+Na)Ca6(Fe3+,Mn2+)3Zr3NbSi24(Si,◻,Ti)O74(OH)2Cl · 5H2O
SodaiteA synonym of 'Wernerite'
SodditeA synonym of Soddyite
SudoiteA valid IMA mineral speciesMg2Al3(AlSi3O10)(OH)8

IMA Classification of Seidite-(Ce)Hide

Classification of Seidite-(Ce)Hide

9.DJ.20

9 : SILICATES (Germanates)
D : Inosilicates
J : Inosilicates with 4-periodic double and triple chains

Mineral SymbolsHide

As of 2021 there are now IMA–CNMNC approved mineral symbols (abbreviations) for each mineral species, useful for tables and diagrams.

SymbolSourceReference for Standard
Sei-CeIMA–CNMNCWarr, L.N. (2021). IMA–CNMNC approved mineral symbols. Mineralogical Magazine, 85(3), 291-320. doi:10.1180/mgm.2021.43

Physical Properties of Seidite-(Ce)Hide

Silky
Transparency:
Translucent
Comment:
Resinous or dull in some specimens
Colour:
Bright yellow, pinkish yellow, creamy-white
Hardness:
3 - 4 on Mohs scale
Cleavage:
Perfect
Perfect {100} and less perfect {001}
Fracture:
Splintery, Fibrous
Density:
2.76 g/cm3 (Measured)    2.73 g/cm3 (Calculated)

Optical Data of Seidite-(Ce)Hide

Type:
Biaxial (-)
RI values:
nα = 1.542(2) nβ = 1.569(2) nγ = 1.571(2)
2V:
Measured: 28° (1), Calculated: 31°
Max. Birefringence:
δ = 0.029
Based on recorded range of RI values above.

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Surface Relief:
Low (positive)
Relative to Canada balsam mounting medium (n ≈ 1.537).

This shows the grain boundary and Becke line effect under plane-polarised light, based on the contrast between this mineral's average refractive index and the mounting medium. It does not take into account mineral colouration.
In focus
Interference Figure:
This shows the idealized biaxial acute bisectrix (Bxa) interference figure - the conoscopic view for a grain cut perpendicular to the acute bisectrix, using this mineral's 2V. The two small white dots mark the melatopes - the points where the two optic axes emerge - and are shown only when they fall within the field of view. The coloured bands are isochromatics, and the dark bands are isogyres.

Rotate the stage: at 0°/90° the isogyres form a cross through the melatopes; at 45° they pull apart into curved hyperbolas. That splitting on rotation - absent in a uniaxial figure - is the standard diagnostic test for telling biaxial minerals from uniaxial ones. If 2V is large, the melatopes may fall outside the field of view, as they often do at the microscope too.
Dispersion:
weak
Comments:
positive elongation, X ≈ a, Y ≈ c, Z ≈ b.

Chemistry of Seidite-(Ce)Hide

Mindat Formula:
Na4(Ce,Sr)2[TiSi8O18(OH)2](O,OH,F)4 · 5H2O
Element Weights:
Element% weight
O41.397 %
Ce25.002 %
Si20.046 %
Na8.205 %
Ti4.271 %
H1.079 %

Calculated from ideal end-member formula.
O
Ce
Si
Na
Ti
H

Crystallography of Seidite-(Ce)Hide

Crystal System:
Monoclinic
Class (H-M):
2/m - Prismatic
Space Group:
P21/m
Setting:
P21/m
Cell Parameters:
a = 7.2631(4) Å, b = 24.5294(3) Å, c = 14.3842(6) Å
β = 90.16(5)°
Ratio:
a:b:c = 0.296 : 1 : 0.586
Unit Cell V:
2,562.67 ų (Calculated from Unit Cell)
Z:
4
Morphology:
Type material: individual fibers are up to 0.05 mm thick, elongate [010], and flattened {100}.
Comment:
The unit cell designated as rhombic (a = 24.3, b = 7.13, c = 10.74 Å) in the monograph [3] was determined as monoclinic based on electron diffraction data, C2/c, a = 24.61(5) Å, b = 7.23(1) Å, c = 14.53(3) Å, β = 94.6(3)o, V = 2577 Å Refined by . May have 2 polytypes.

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IDSpeciesReferenceLinkYearLocalityPressure (GPa)Temp (K)
0005884Seidite-(Ce)Ferraris G, Belluso E, Gula A, Soboleva S V, Khomyakov A P (2003) The crystal structure of seidite-(Ce), Na4(Ce,Sr)2{Ti(OH)2(Si8O18)}(O,OH,F)4.5H2O, a modular microporous titanosilicate of the rhodesite group The Canadian Mineralogist 41 1183-119220030293
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X-Ray Powder DiffractionHide

Powder Diffraction Data:
d-spacingIntensity
12.32 Å(100)
6.93 Å(30B)
3.11 Å(24)
7.22 Å(20B)
6.20 Å(20B)
3.23 Å(20B)
3.08 Å(16)

Geological EnvironmentHide

Paragenetic Mode(s):
Paragenetic ModeEarliest Age (Ga)
Stage 4b: Highly evolved igneous rocks>3.0
35 : Ultra-alkali and agpaitic igneous rocks

Type Occurrence of Seidite-(Ce)Hide

General Appearance of Type Material:
Bright yellow, pinkish yellow, or cream-colored spherulites to 1 cm, in cavernous natrolite.
Place of Conservation of Type Material:
Museum of the St. Petersburg Mining Institute, Russia.
Geological Setting of Type Material:
Ultraagpaitic pegmatite.
Associated Minerals at Type Locality:

Synonyms of Seidite-(Ce)Hide

Other Language Names for Seidite-(Ce)Hide

Common AssociatesHide

Associations Based on Photo Data:
6 photos of Seidite-(Ce) associated with ManganoneptuniteKNa2Li(Mn2+)2Ti2[Si4O12]2
3 photos of Seidite-(Ce) associated with AbellaiteNaPb2(CO3)2(OH)
3 photos of Seidite-(Ce) associated with GalenaPbS
3 photos of Seidite-(Ce) associated with NatroliteNa2Al2Si3O10 · 2H2O
1 photo of Seidite-(Ce) associated with RaiteMn2+Mn2+2Na2(◻1.75Ti0.25)Si8O20(OH)2(H2O)4 · Na(H2O)6

Related Minerals - Strunz-mindat GroupingHide

9.DJ.05NarsarsukiteNa2(Ti,Fe3+)Si4(O,F)11Tet. 4/m : I4/m
9.DJ.10Laplandite-(Ce)Na4CeTiPO4Si7O18 · 5H2OOrth. mmm(2/m2/m2/m) : Pmmm
9.DJ.15Caysichite-(Y)(Ca,Yb,Er)4Y4(Si8O20)(CO3)6(OH) · 7H2OOrth. mm2 : Cmc21
9.DJ.25Carlosturanite(Mg,Fe,Ti)21(Si,Al)12O28(OH)34 · H2OMon. m : Bm
9.DJ.30JonesiteBa4(K,Na)2Ti4Al2(Si3O9)2(SiO4)4O2 · 6H2OMon. 2/m : P2/c

Fluorescence of Seidite-(Ce)Hide

Nonfluorescent

Other InformationHide

Thermal Behaviour:
The DTA curve has a strong endotherm at 180°C (dehydration) and weak ones at 650, 740, and 840°C (incongruent melting). Weight loss between 20 and 200°C is 8.2%, and total loss to 1000°C is 11.1 wt%. Readily rehydrates after heating to 300°C.
Notes:
Readily soluble in 10% HCl or HNO3, reacts with H2O.
Health Risks:
No information on health risks for this material has been entered into the database. You should always treat mineral specimens with care.

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References for Seidite-(Ce)Hide

Localities for Seidite-(Ce)Hide

Showing 4 localities.

This map shows a selection of localities that have latitude and longitude coordinates recorded. Click on the symbol to view information about a locality. The symbol next to localities in the list can be used to jump to that position on the map.
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Locality ListHide

- This locality has map coordinates listed. - This locality has estimated coordinates. ⓘ - Click for references and further information on this occurrence. ? - Indicates mineral may be doubtful at this locality. - Good crystals or important locality for species. - World class for species or very significant. (TL) - Type Locality for a valid mineral species. (FRL) - First Recorded Locality for everything else (eg varieties). Struck out - Mineral was erroneously reported from this locality. Faded * - Never found at this locality but inferred to have existed at some point in the past (e.g. from pseudomorphs).

All localities listed without proper references should be considered as questionable.
Russia
 
  • Murmansk Oblast
...
    • Lovozersky District
      • Karnasurt Mountain
Kasatkin (2019)
Mandarino (1996) +2 other references
USA
 
  • Arkansas
    • Hot Spring County
      • Magnet Cove
Henry Barwood - unpublished (2010)
 
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