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Wikifunctions & Abstract Wikipedia Newsletter #252 is out: Improved loading and display of Test results
[edit]There is a new update for Abstract Wikipedia and Wikifunctions. Please, come and read it!
In this issue, we present you an improvement in loading and display of Test results, we talk about our next events, and we take a look at the latest software developments.
Want to catch up with the previous updates? Check our archive!
Also, we remind you that Denny will lead a discussion on the new NLG types in the next Natural Language Generation Special Interest Group meeting, that will be held on June 16, at 16:00 UTC (link to the meeting).
Enjoy the reading! -- User:Sannita (WMF) (talk) 15:29, 12 June 2026 (UTC)
Add Z32962 to the list of suggested functions?
[edit]I think Z32962 would be a useful addition to the list of suggested functions. Can an admin please add it if others agree? Redmin (talk) 04:25, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
- Please comment on MediaWiki talk:AbstractWikiSuggestedWikifunctions.json. Feeglgeef (talk) 04:48, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
Native labels
[edit]English Wikipedia usually displays native labels whenever applicable. Should we modify Z28016 to do the same or make a new function? Redmin (talk) 04:39, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
readiness indicator
[edit]It occurred to me that an abstract page that works well enough for one language output might be broken for another, so it would be good to have some sort of indicator in the UI of which languages might be ready for transwiki and which still need preliminaries. I'm not sure if it would be better to do this as part of the testing and error-handling, or manually (like patrolling versions, but language-specific). Arlo Barnes (talk) 07:12, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
- The function NLG default text will be able to indicate on the target Wikipedia that the text in this language is not ready yet. Maybe sentences with this indicator, or even lemma's with this indicator could be excluded from the target Wikipedia. HenkvD (talk) 08:52, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
- I see that in the #Marking NLG Default text section, but I am thinking more at the whole-article level; dropping a problematic fragment from the final render could change the overall meaning. Arlo Barnes (talk) 17:20, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
- The function NLG default text will be able to indicate on the target Wikipedia that the text in this language is not ready yet. Maybe sentences with this indicator, or even lemma's with this indicator could be excluded from the target Wikipedia. HenkvD (talk) 08:52, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
Add an LLM generator, where you can generate the schema
[edit]Hi. Please add an LLM generator, where you can ask AI to generate a schema for Abstract wikipedia. ChippyTimeCom (talk) 01:18, 17 June 2026 (UTC)
- Do you mean an AI model to translate natural language input to abstract output? This was tinkered with before, I believe, last year—see f:Wikifunctions:Status updates/2025-05-09 if you would like to read about it. This idea remained a mockup and not much more from what I can tell, but they may revisit the idea someday. — rae5e <talk> 17:40, 18 June 2026 (UTC)
- The main thing stoping one from pulling up a chatbot is that it has no knowledge of what wikifunctions are available, meaning it will probably just hallucinate them. I know Gemini has an ability to upload files, but all of Wikifunctions would be too large. Feeglgeef (talk) 18:58, 18 June 2026 (UTC)
- We have no obligation to use an LLM, that's just the main thing associated with the buzzword that is AI now. We can really come up with any AI model—in a general sense—that will fit our needs. You can do a lot with simple neural networks. — rae5e <talk> 19:33, 18 June 2026 (UTC)
- The main thing stoping one from pulling up a chatbot is that it has no knowledge of what wikifunctions are available, meaning it will probably just hallucinate them. I know Gemini has an ability to upload files, but all of Wikifunctions would be too large. Feeglgeef (talk) 18:58, 18 June 2026 (UTC)
Wikifunctions & Abstract Wikipedia Newsletter #253 is out: The or not the, this is (the?) question
[edit]There is a new update for Abstract Wikipedia and Wikifunctions. Please, come and read it!
In this issue, we present you a delicate question regarding grammatical framework, we talk about our next events and about the results of our latest online meetings, we discuss news about Types, and we take a look at the latest software developments.
Want to catch up with the previous updates? Check our archive!
Enjoy the reading! -- User:Sannita (WMF) (talk) 12:34, 19 June 2026 (UTC)
This needs to be fixed
[edit]On tennis Q847, it says "Tennis is the country of origin of England." ~2026-36465-63 (talk) 07:31, 23 June 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks, I've switched it around. --99of9 (talk) 09:51, 23 June 2026 (UTC)
HTML, monolingual text or String for fragments
[edit]I think there is an important issue on the Output type of parts for text segments. Currently some sentences produce String output (like f:Z26039 ) or monolingual text output ( like f:Z26570 ) pr HTML output ( like f:Z36200 ). Apart from not being consistent I think there is even a bigger issue: these types don't allow text to be set in bold (in the introduction sentence for instance), or wikilinks to other AW articles. Am I correct that is only allowed in HTML text?
If so I think we should change ALL languages functions to output type HTML as soon as possible. HenkvD (talk) 15:51, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
- Currently, I am exploring this function for converting all of these to HTML fragment f:Z36303. John Samuel (talk) 16:46, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
- OK, thanks.