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Stars color index (B-V)Β #374

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@alex-w

Original report by Bernard Balusseau: https://bugs.launchpad.net/stellarium/+bug/1762194

Some stars, not all, have huge B-V color index shifts compared to classical photometric catalogs such as Ducati, 2002 or Nicolet, 1978.
Two examples on brighting stars:

  • Arcturus 0.82 on Stellarium, 1.23 on Ducati, 2002
  • Betelgeuse 1.52 on Stellarium, 1.85 on Nicolet, 1978.
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    state: confirmedA developer can reproduce the issue
    importance: lowSmall problem, rarely visible, no crash
    on Sep 19, 2018
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    on Sep 27, 2018
  3. gzotti commented on Sep 27, 2018

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    (From original discussion)
    Different catalog, different result...

    http://vizier.u-strasbg.fr/viz-bin/VizieR-S?HIP%2027989
    and even different in TYC
    http://vizier.u-strasbg.fr/viz-bin/VizieR-4?-source=+I%2F239%2Ftyc_main&-from=nav&-nav=cat%3AI%2F311%26cat%3AI%2F239%26tab%3A%7BI%2F239%2Fhp_notes%7D%26key%3Asource%3D1311%2Fhip2%26key%3Asource%3D1239%2Fhip_main%26HTTPPRM%3A%26-out.add%3D.%26HIP%3D27989%26-go+%25%23Sesame%23%25%26

    One task "somebody" should do in the next 5 years or so is switching to Gaia data, including correct proper motion. In this process, we should think about best non-positional data as well. Volunteers welcome.

  4. gzotti commented on Dec 21, 2019

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    This is actually a duplicate of #364 but both entries have interesting links.

  5. added this to the 25.1 milestone on Dec 28, 2024
  6. Atque commented on Dec 28, 2024

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    Surely solved by #3992?

  7. gzotti commented on Dec 28, 2024

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    Our B-V is created from the HIP/Gaia DR3 now. This is not necessarily the same as whatever Ducati or Nicolet have reported, but unless you can provide a cross index between those two catalogs, there is not much that can be done to reproduce anything but what's in DR3. Do not expect we use your favourite catalog instead. However, now Stellarium shows 1.23 for Arcturus, and 1.85 for Beteigeuze, so the reported issue seems solved.

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    on Dec 29, 2024
  9. github-actions commented on Dec 29, 2024

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    Hello @alex-w!

    Please check the fresh version (development snapshot) of Stellarium:
    https://github.com/Stellarium/stellarium-data/releases/tag/weekly-snapshot

  10. henrysky commented on Dec 31, 2024

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    Just to add that $B-V$ index for most stars without HIP ids in the new star catalog are measured from low resolution Gaia optical spectra (so unlikely those $B-V$ will match any catalog) while stars with HIP have their $B-V$ pulled from SIMBAD whatever SIMBAD thinks is the best.

  11. gzotti commented on Dec 31, 2024

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    Ah, thanks. This info should go into the User Guide. Some people are using Stellarium for reference and may report "errors" when they find data in different catalogs. It would be fine if you name which Gaia list entries were processed with which algorithms.

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    subsystem: catalogsThe issue is related to supported catalogs of planetarium...
    on Jan 12, 2025
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    state: publishedThe fix has been published for testing in weekly binary package
    on Mar 23, 2025
  14. github-actions commented on Mar 23, 2025

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    Hello @alex-w!

    Please check the latest stable version of Stellarium:
    https://github.com/Stellarium/stellarium/releases/latest

  15. moved this to Done in Catalogson May 14, 2025
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