Karnasurtite-(Ce)
A valid IMA mineral species
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About Karnasurtite-(Ce)
Formula:
(Ce,La,Th)(Ti,Nb)(Al,Fe)(Si2O7)(OH)4 · 3H2O
Colour:
Honey-yellow when fresh to pale yellow when altered
Lustre:
Greasy
Hardness:
2
Specific Gravity:
2.89 - 2.95
Crystal System:
Amorphous
Name:
Originally called kozhanovite, but without description. Named karnasurtite after the type locality of Karnasurt Mt, Lovozero Massif, Russia. The suffix was added in 1987 to indicate the dominant rare earth element.
This page provides mineralogical data about Karnasurtite-(Ce).
Unique Identifiers
Mindat ID:
2161
Long-form identifier:
mindat:1:1:2161:2
IMA Classification of Karnasurtite-(Ce)
Approved
IMA Formula:
Ce3+Ti4+AlSi2O7(OH)4·3H2O
First published:
1959
Classification of Karnasurtite-(Ce)
9.BE.70
9 : SILICATES (Germanates)
B : Sorosilicates
E : Si2O7 groups, with additional anions; cations in octahedral [6] and greater coordination
9 : SILICATES (Germanates)
B : Sorosilicates
E : Si2O7 groups, with additional anions; cations in octahedral [6] and greater coordination
52.4.9.7
52 : NESOSILICATES Insular SiO4 Groups and O,OH,F,H2O
4 : Insular SiO4 Groups and O, OH, F, and H2O with cations in [6] and/or >[6] coordination
52 : NESOSILICATES Insular SiO4 Groups and O,OH,F,H2O
4 : Insular SiO4 Groups and O, OH, F, and H2O with cations in [6] and/or >[6] coordination
17.6.6
17 : Silicates Containing other Anions
6 : Silicates with phosphate
17 : Silicates Containing other Anions
6 : Silicates with phosphate
Mineral Symbols
As of 2021 there are now IMA–CNMNC approved mineral symbols (abbreviations) for each mineral species, useful for tables and diagrams.
| Symbol | Source | Reference for Standard |
|---|---|---|
| Ksu-Ce | IMA–CNMNC | Warr, L.N. (2021). IMA–CNMNC approved mineral symbols. Mineralogical Magazine, 85(3), 291-320. doi:10.1180/mgm.2021.43 |
Physical Properties of Karnasurtite-(Ce)
Greasy
Colour:
Honey-yellow when fresh to pale yellow when altered
Streak:
Yellowish
Hardness:
2 on Mohs scale
Tenacity:
Brittle
Cleavage:
Distinct/Good
Good in one direction, imperfect in another
Good in one direction, imperfect in another
Density:
2.89 - 2.95 g/cm3 (Measured)
Optical Data of Karnasurtite-(Ce)
Type:
Uniaxial (-)
RI values:
nω = 1.617 nε = 1.595
Max. Birefringence:
δ = 0.022
Based on recorded range of RI values above.
Based on recorded range of RI values above.
Interference Colours:
The colours simulate birefringence patterns seen in thin section under crossed polars. They do not take into account mineral colouration or opacity.
Michel-Levy Bar The default colours simulate the birefringence range for a 30 µm thin-section thickness. Adjust the slider to simulate a different thickness.
Grain Simulation You can rotate the grain simulation to show how this range might look as you rotated a sample under crossed polars. Each grain retains its interference colour (retardation) while its brightness falls to black at extinction and reaches a maximum between extinction positions.
The colours simulate birefringence patterns seen in thin section under crossed polars. They do not take into account mineral colouration or opacity.
Michel-Levy Bar The default colours simulate the birefringence range for a 30 µm thin-section thickness. Adjust the slider to simulate a different thickness.
Grain Simulation You can rotate the grain simulation to show how this range might look as you rotated a sample under crossed polars. Each grain retains its interference colour (retardation) while its brightness falls to black at extinction and reaches a maximum between extinction positions.
Surface Relief:
Moderate
Pleochroism:
Non-pleochroic
Comments:
may be anomalously slightly biaxial
Chemistry of Karnasurtite-(Ce)
Mindat Formula:
(Ce,La,Th)(Ti,Nb)(Al,Fe)(Si2O7)(OH)4 · 3H2O
Element Weights:
Crystallography of Karnasurtite-(Ce)
Crystal System:
Amorphous
Comment:
hexagonal?
X-Ray Powder Diffraction
Powder Diffraction Data:
| d-spacing | Intensity |
|---|---|
| 3.10 Å | (70) |
| 2.88 Å | (70) |
| 3.29 Å | (60) |
| 3.49 Å | (50) |
| 1.723 Å | (50) |
Comments:
X-ray amorphous; powder pattern obtained after heating to 900°C. "The pattern is close to that of monazite" (Handbook of Mineralogy).
Geological Environment
Paragenetic Mode(s):
| Paragenetic Mode | Earliest Age (Ga) |
|---|---|
| Stage 4b: Highly evolved igneous rocks | >3.0 |
| 35 : Ultra-alkali and agpaitic igneous rocks |
Type Occurrence of Karnasurtite-(Ce)
General Appearance of Type Material:
Grains to 1 cm and aggregates of platy crystals 10x6x2cm
Place of Conservation of Type Material:
A. E. Fersman Mineralogical Museum, Academy of Sciences, Moscow, Russia.
National Museum of Natural History, Washington, D.C., USA, 143823.
National Museum of Natural History, Washington, D.C., USA, 143823.
Geological Setting of Type Material:
Zoned pegmatite
Associated Minerals at Type Locality:
Synonyms of Karnasurtite-(Ce)
Other Language Names for Karnasurtite-(Ce)
Dutch:Karnasurtiet-(Ce)
German:Karnasurtit-(Ce)
Common Associates
Associations Based on Photo Data:
| 3 photos of Karnasurtite-(Ce) associated with Polylithionite | KLi2Al(Si4O10)(F,OH)2 |
| 2 photos of Karnasurtite-(Ce) associated with Coronadite Group | |
| 1 photo of Karnasurtite-(Ce) associated with Natrolite | Na2Al2Si3O10 · 2H2O |
| 1 photo of Karnasurtite-(Ce) associated with 'Psilomelane' |
Related Minerals - Strunz-mindat Grouping
| 9.BE. | Zinkgruvanite | Ba4Mn2+4Fe3+2(Si2O7)2(SO4)2O2(OH)2 |
| 9.BE. | Calciomurmanite | (Na,◻)2Ca(Ti,Mg,Nb)4[Si2O7]2O2(OH,O)2(H2O)4 |
| 9.BE. | Cámaraite | Ba3Na(Fe2+,Mn)8Ti4(Si2O7)4O4(OH,F)7 |
| 9.BE. | Alfredcasparite | Sr2TiO(Si2O7) |
| 9.BE. | Batievaite-(Y) | Y2Ca2Ti(Si2O7)2(OH)2(H2O)4 |
| 9.BE. | Nacareniobsite-(Y) | Na3Ca3YNb(Si2O7)2OF3 |
| 9.BE. | Alexkuznetsovite-(Ce) | Ce2Mn(CO3)(Si2O7) |
| 9.BE. | Bobshannonite | Na2KBa(Mn,Na)8(Nb,Ti)4(Si2O7)4O4(OH)4(O,F)2 |
| 9.BE. | Paralomonosovite | Na6◻4Ti4(Si2O7)2[PO3OH][PO2(OH)2]O2(OF) |
| 9.BE. | Madeiraite | Na2Ca2Fe2Zr2(Si2O7)2O2F2 |
| 9.BE. | Bortolanite | Ca2(Ca1.5Zr0.5)Na(NaCa)Ti(Si2O7)2(OF)F2 |
| 9.BE. | Longshoushanite-(Ce) | Ce4MgAl2Ti2(Si2O7)2O8 |
| 9.BE. | Moxuanxueite | NaCa6Zr(Si2O7)2OF3 |
| 9.BE. | Delhuyarite-(Ce) | Ce4Mg(Fe3+,W)3◻(Si2O7)2O6(OH)2 |
| 9.BE. | Christofschäferite-(Ce) | Ce3CaMnTiFe3+Ti2(Si2O7)2O8 |
| 9.BE.X | Asimowite | Fe2+4O(Si2O7) |
| 9.BE. | Biraite-(La) | La2Fe2+(CO3)(Si2O7) |
| 9.BE. | Pilanesbergite | Na2Ca2Fe2Ti2(Si2O7)2O2F2 |
| 9.BE.02 | Wadsleyite | Mg4O(Si2O7) |
| 9.BE.02 | Ohtaniite | Mg3(Si0.5◻0.5)Si2O8 |
| 9.BE.05 | Lawsonite | CaAl2(Si2O7)(OH)2 · H2O |
| 9.BE.05 | Hennomartinite | SrMn3+2(Si2O7)(OH)2 · H2O |
| 9.BE.05 | Cortesognoite | CaV2(Si2O7)(OH)2 · H2O |
| 9.BE.05 | Noelbensonite | BaMn3+2(Si2O7)(OH)2 · H2O |
| 9.BE.05 | Itoigawaite | SrAl2(Si2O7)(OH)2 · H2O |
| 9.BE.07 | Ilvaite | CaFe3+Fe2+2(Si2O7)O(OH) |
| 9.BE.07 | Amamoorite | CaMn2+2Mn3+(Si2O7)O(OH) |
| 9.BE.07 | Manganilvaite | CaFe2+Fe3+Mn2+(Si2O7)O(OH) |
| 9.BE.10 | Suolunite | Ca2(H2Si2O7) · H2O |
| 9.BE.12 | Jaffeite | Ca6(Si2O7)(OH)6 |
| 9.BE.15 | Fresnoite | Ba2Ti(Si2O7)O |
| 9.BE.17 | Janhaugite | (Na,Ca)3(Mn2+,Fe2+)3(Ti,Zr,Nb)2(Si2O7)2O2(OH,F)2 |
| 9.BE.17 | Burpalite | Na2CaZr(Si2O7)F2 |
| 9.BE.17 | Niocalite | (Ca,Nb)4(Si2O7)(O,OH,F)2 |
| 9.BE.17 | Normandite | NaCa(Mn,Fe)(Ti,Nb,Zr)(Si2O7)OF |
| 9.BE.17 | Hiortdahlite | Na2Ca4(Ca0.5Zr0.5)Zr(Si2O7)2OF3 |
| 9.BE.17 | Låvenite | Na2Ca2Mn2Zr2(Si2O7)2O2F2 |
| 9.BE.17 | Cuspidine | Ca8(Si2O7)2F4 |
| 9.BE.17 | Wöhlerite | Na2Ca4ZrNb(Si2O7)2O3F |
| 9.BE.17 | Baghdadite | Ca6Zr2(Si2O7)2O4 |
| 9.BE.20 | Nacareniobsite-(Ce) | Na3Ca3(Ce,REE)Nb(Si2O7)2OF3 |
| 9.BE.20 | Roumaite | (Ca,Na,REE,◻)7(Nb,Ti)[Si2O7]2OF3 |
| 9.BE.20 | Rinkite-(Ce) | (Ca3Ce)Na(NaCa)Ti(Si2O7)2(OF)F2 |
| 9.BE.20 | Nacareniobsite-(Nd) | Ca2(CaNd)Na3Nb(Si2O7)2(OF)F2 |
| 9.BE.20 | Rinkite-(Y) | Na2Ca4YTi(Si2O7)2OF3 |
| 9.BE.20 | Mosandrite-(Ce) | (Ca3REE)[(H2O)2Ca0.5◻0.5]Ti(Si2O7)2(OH)2(H2O)2 |
| 9.BE.22 | Hainite-(Y) | Na2Ca4(Y,REE)Ti(Si2O7)2OF3 |
| 9.BE.22 | Rosenbuschite | Na6Ca6Zr3Ti(Si2O7)4O2F6 |
| 9.BE.22 | Götzenite | NaCa6Ti(Si2O7)2OF3 |
| 9.BE.22 | Fogoite-(Y) | Na3Ca2Y2Ti(Si2O7)2OF3 |
| 9.BE.22 | Kochite | Na3Ca2MnZrTi(Si2O7)2OF3 |
| 9.BE.23 | Dovyrenite | Ca6Zr(Si2O7)2(OH)4 |
| 9.BE.25 | Lamprophyllite | (Na,Mn2+)3(Sr,Na)2(Ti,Fe3+)3(Si2O7)2O2(OH,O,F)2 |
| 9.BE.25 | Seidozerite | Na4MnZr2Ti(Si2O7)2O2F2 |
| 9.BE.25 | Nabalamprophyllite | (BaNa)Ti2Na3Ti(Si2O7)2O2(OH)2 |
| 9.BE.25 | Schüllerite | Ba2Na(Mn,Ca)(Fe3+,Mg,Fe2+)2Ti2(Si2O7)2(O,F)4 |
| 9.BE.25 | Ericssonite | BaMn2+2Fe3+(Si2O7)O(OH) |
| 9.BE.25 | Grenmarite | Na4MnZr3(Si2O7)2O2F2 |
| 9.BE.25 | Kazanskyite | BaNa3Ti2Nb(Si2O7)2O2(OH)2(H2O)4 |
| 9.BE.25 | Saamite | Ba◻Na3Ti2Nb(Si2O7)2O2(OH)F(H2O)2 |
| 9.BE.25 | Emmerichite | Ba2Na(Na,Fe2+)2(Fe3+,Mg)Ti2(Si2O7)2O2F2 |
| 9.BE.25 | Barytolamprophyllite | (Ba,Na)2(Na,Ti,Fe3+)4Ti2(Si2O7)2O(OH,F) |
| 9.BE.25 | 'Ericssonite-2O' | BaMn2+2Fe3+(Si2O7)O(OH) |
| 9.BE.25 | Fluorbarytolamprophyllite | (Ba,Sr)2[(Na,Fe2+)3(Ti,Mg)F2][Ti2(Si2O7)2O2] |
| 9.BE.25 | Fluorlamprophyllite | Na3(SrNa)Ti3(Si2O7)2O2F2 |
| 9.BE.25 | Lileyite | Ba2(Na,Fe,Ca)3MgTi2(Si2O7)2O2F2 |
| 9.BE.27 | Kolskyite | CaNa2Ti4(Si2O7)2O4(H2O)7 |
| 9.BE.27 | Vigrishinite | NaZnTi4(Si2O7)2O3(OH)(H2O)4 |
| 9.BE.27 | Selivanovaite | NaFe3+Ti4(Si2O7)2O4(H2O)4 |
| 9.BE.27 | Murmanite | Na2Ti2(Si2O7)O2 · 2H2O |
| 9.BE.30 | Epistolite | (Na◻)Nb2Na3Ti(Si2O7)2O2(OH)2(H2O)4 |
| 9.BE.32 | Lomonosovite | Na5Ti2(Si2O7)(PO4)O2 |
| 9.BE.35 | Vuonnemite | Na11Ti4+Nb2(Si2O7)2(PO4)2O3(F,OH) |
| 9.BE.37 | Sobolevite | Na13Ca2Mn2Ti3(Si2O7)2(PO4)4O3F3 |
| 9.BE.40 | Ferroinnelite | Ba4Ti2Na(NaFe2+)Ti(Si2O7)2[(SO4)(PO4)]O2[O(OH)] |
| 9.BE.40 | Phosphoinnelite | Na3Ba4Ti3(Si2O7)2(PO4,SO4)2O2F |
| 9.BE.40 | Innelite | Ba4Ti2Na(NaMn2+)Ti(Si2O7)2[(SO4)(PO4)]O2[O(OH)] |
| 9.BE.42 | Yoshimuraite | Ba2Mn2Ti(Si2O7)(PO4)O(OH) |
| 9.BE.42 | Horiite | Ba2Mn2Mn4Ti2(Si2O7)2(PO4)2O2(OH)2 |
| 9.BE.45 | Quadruphite | Na6Na2(CaNa)2Na2Ti2Na2Ti2(Si2O7)2(PO4)4O4F2 |
| 9.BE.47 | Polyphite | Na5(Na4Ca2)Ti2(Si2O7)(PO4)3O2F2 |
| 9.BE.50 | Shkatulkalite | Na2Nb2Na3Ti(Si2O7)2O2(FO)(H2O)4(H2O)3 |
| 9.BE.50 | Bornemanite | Na6BaTi2Nb(Si2O7)2(PO4)O2(OH)F |
| 9.BE.55 | Hejtmanite | Ba2Mn2+4Ti2(Si2O7)2O2(OH)2F2 |
| 9.BE.55 | Bykovaite | (Ba,Na,K)2(Na,Ti,Mn)4(Ti,Nb)2(Si2O7)2O2(H2O,F,OH)2 · 3.5H2O |
| 9.BE.55 | Nechelyustovite | (Ba,Sr,K)2(Na,Ti,Mn)4(Ti,Nb)2(Si2O7)2O2(O,H2O,F)2 · 4.5H2O |
| 9.BE.55 | Bafertisite | Ba2Fe2+4Ti2(Si2O7)2O2(OH)2F2 |
| 9.BE.60 | Delindeite | (Na,K)2(Ba,Ca)2(Ti,Fe,Al)3(Si2O7)2O2(OH)2 · 2H2O |
| 9.BE.62 | 'Orthochevkinite' | (Ce,La,Ca,Na,Th)4(Fe2+,Mg)2(Ti,Fe3+)3Si4O22 |
| 9.BE.62 va | 'Strontium Perrierite' | (Ce,Sr,La,Ca)4Fe2+(Ti,Zr,Fe)2Ti2(Si2O7)2O8 |
| 9.BE.62 | 'Chevkinite-(Nd)' | (Nd,REE)4(Fe2+,Mg)(Fe2+,Ti,Fe3+)2(Ti,Fe3+)2(Si2O7)2O8 ? |
| 9.BE.62 | 'Perrierite-(Nd)' | Nd4MgFe3+2Ti2(Si2O7)2O8 ? |
| 9.BE.65 | Bussenite | Na2Ba2Fe2+Ti(Si2O7)(CO3)(OH)3F |
| 9.BE.67 | Jinshajiangite | BaNaFe2+4Ti2(Si2O7)2O2(OH)2F |
| 9.BE.67 | Perraultite | BaNaMn2+4Ti2(Si2O7)2O2(OH)2F |
| 9.BE.70 | Dingdaohengite-(Ce) | (Ce,La)4Fe2+(Ti,Fe2+,Mg,Fe3+)2Ti2(Si2O7)2O8 |
| 9.BE.70 | Perrierite-(Ce) | Ce4MgFe3+2Ti2(Si2O7)2O8 |
| 9.BE.70 | Maoniupingite-(Ce) | (Ce,Ca)4(Fe3+,Ti,Fe2+,◻)(Ti,Fe3+,Fe2+,Nb)4(Si2O7)2O8 |
| 9.BE.70 | Matsubaraite | Sr4Ti5(Si2O7)2O8 |
| 9.BE.70 | Rengeite | Sr4ZrTi4(Si2O7)2O8 |
| 9.BE.70 | Polyakovite-(Ce) | (Ce,Ca)4(Mg,Fe2+)(Cr3+,Fe3+)2(Ti,Nb)2(Si2O7)2O8 |
| 9.BE.70 | Hezuolinite | (Sr,REE)4Zr(Ti,Fe3+)4(Si2O7)2O8 |
| 9.BE.70 | 'UM2008-53-SiO:SrTiZr' | Sr4ZrTi4(Si2O7)2O8 |
| 9.BE.70 | Chevkinite-(Ce) | Ce4(Ti,Fe2+,Fe3+)5O8(Si2O7)2 |
| 9.BE.70 | Perrierite-(La) | (La,Ce,Ca)4(Fe2+,Mn)(Ti,Fe3+,Al)4[(Si2O7)O4]2 |
| 9.BE.70 | Strontiochevkinite | (Sr,La,Ce,Ca)4Fe2+(Ti,Zr)2Ti2(Si2O7)2O8 |
| 9.BE.72 | Fersmanite | Ca4(Na,Ca)4(Ti,Nb)4(Si2O7)2O8F3 |
| 9.BE.75 | Belkovite | Ba3(Nb,Ti)6(Si2O7)2O12 |
| 9.BE.77 | Nasonite | Pb6Ca4(Si2O7)3Cl2 |
| 9.BE.80 | Melanotekite | Pb2Fe3+2(Si2O7)O2 |
| 9.BE.80 | Kentrolite | Pb2Mn3+2(Si2O7)O2 |
| 9.BE.82 | Alexkuznetsovite-(La) | La2Mn(CO3)(Si2O7) |
| 9.BE.82 | Tilleyite | Ca5(Si2O7)(CO3)2 |
| 9.BE.85 | Killalaite | Ca6.4(H0.6Si2O7)2(OH)2 |
| 9.BE.87 | Stavelotite-(La) | (La,Nd,Ca)3Mn2+3Cu(Mn3+,Fe3+,Mn4+)26(Si2O7)6O30 |
| 9.BE.90 | Magnesiorowlandite-(Y) | Y4(Mg,Fe)(Si2O7)2F2 |
| 9.BE.90 | Biraite-(Ce) | Ce2Fe2+(Si2O7)(CO3) |
| 9.BE.92 | Cervandonite-(Ce) | (Ce,Nd,La)(Fe3+,Fe2+,Ti,Al)3O2(Si2O7)(As3+O3)(OH) |
| 9.BE.92 | Chirvinskyite | (Na,Ca)13(Fe,Mn,◻)2(Ti,Zr)5(Si2O7)4(OH,O)12 · 2H2O |
| 9.BE.95 | Rusinovite | Ca10(Si2O7)3Cl2 |
| 9.BE.95 | Batisivite | BaV3+8Ti6(Si2O7)O22 |
| 9.BE.97 | Schlüterite-(Y) | (Y,REE)2AlSi2O7(OH)2F |
Other Information
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References for Karnasurtite-(Ce)
Reference List:
Fleischer, M., Rooseboom, E. H., Skinner, Brian (1960) New Mineral Names; New data; Discredited minerals. American Mineralogist, 45 (9-10) 1130-1136
(1962) International Mineralogical Association: Commission on New Minerals and Mineral Names. Mineralogical Magazine and Journal of the Mineralogical Society, 33 (258) 260-263 doi:10.1180/minmag.1962.033.258.09
Localities for Karnasurtite-(Ce)
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| GSC locality database +1 other reference |
Russia | |
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| Kuz'menko et al. (1959) +2 other references |
| Yakovenchuk et al. (2011) |
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Hackmanite Stock, Karnasurt Mountain, Lovozersky District, Murmansk Oblast, Russia